How do you imagine a family that you have never seen before? How do you make it work? What is the difference between complexity and drama? Effy and Jacquline are joined by Queers Next Door's Leigh Montavon to talk about managing the complexities of a family by design, bringing up children in a non-traditional family, and what it takes to make it all work. Effy takes her turn on the Soap Box to officially renounce ethical non-monogamy for good. To learn more about Leigh, follow her on social media, on her website at and check out her handmade zine about sex, self-care, & relationships at queerlovezine.